Spooled up Racing's COMPLETE Rx-7 build

[SpooledupRacing]

OK as most of you know I have had a bit of problems with my last engine I built.

I did a COMPLETE build on the engine with all NEW mazda parts and I did not replace the oil control rings (hard metal rings). The engine ran fine but smoked and used oil profusly.

I bought new rings and tore the engine down again.. I built it and when I started it I had a miss... after pulling the motor I noticed that the front housing had a LARGE couge in the rotor housing from the apex seal sliding forward on the initial start up..

Now I am out a rotor housing and an apex seal..

So I have decided to start OVER...

I am going to buy:
BRAND NEW rotor housings
Rx-8 Eccentric shaft (1lb lighter)
possibly do lightweight rotors and matching counter weights
etc
etc

I also am going to finish the project by fixing all my electric issues, installing the turbo transmission, turbo LSD diff, new bushings, 5 lug hubs, new wider rims with tires etc.

This is going to be a long journey but I am ready..

here is a link to my last build

http://www.themazdaforum.com/showthread.php?t=751

OK no insipid posts here please.. lets stay on topic!!!

[pro5x2]

The BABY EATER WILL LIVE!!!

Good to hear Dave! I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.

[SATimko]

Subbing for progress reports, and I expect them weekly!

[SpooledupRacing]

Well I have sat down and got some pricing laid out for parts... so far I have a large list and I may buy ALL new housings and all new irons too..

this is going to be an expensive build... but it will be preaty when its done..

I promise u that!

[pro5x2]

Yeah, but, if you don't spend the money and go all new now, how soon would you be replacing the used parts you picked up?

I can't wait to see/hear this thing!!

[SpooledupRacing]

Well thats why I am going new and I will get to re-port my housings and spend more time on the sanding, smoothing, and finishing of the ports.

my list from the begining

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_115.jpg

[neox.286]

subbin'

hey what rims do you have on the car right now?

[SpooledupRacing]

the ones in my sig..

4 lug 16" 10 spoke Enkei

[SpooledupRacing]

the other list of stuff that I need

Black interior door panels
passenger side door (s4 or s5)
passenger side fender (s4 or s5)
passenger side FTP lens
black dash
black carpet
black rear speaker covers

5 lug hubs
LSD T2 diff
turbo driveshaft
turbo axles for LSD (if that matters)
turbo 5spd transmission (good trans please known with good gears)

[SpooledupRacing]

My other option is instead of buying the Racing beat suspension kit (frt/rear sway bars and lowering springs)

buy the frt/rear sway bars from Racing beat, adjustable end links from racing beat and a set of

K-Sport Kontrol coil overs

[njaremka]

is the only difference in the RX-8 shaft that its lighter? and, i hope this build goes a LOT better for you.

[SpooledupRacing]

yes it is 1lb lighter and it is almost half the price of a T2 shaft but that is the only difference I know of....

and the build was just fine I goofed and knew it and did not go back to fix it before I bolted the engien down.. I figured it would be fine (just like when I put the bad control rings in.. I figured it would be fine)

[njaremka]

what would it take to build a 12000rpm+ rotary? that would be sweet

[SpooledupRacing]

mine was build for 10K matter a fact I know I was over 10K at one time...

I may have the e-shaft nitrated and hardened because that is the only part that lets go at the high rpms..

remember the eshaft, flywheel, clutch, and pulley is th eonly thing that is going that fast.. all the internals are going 1/3 the speed (the shaft spins 3 times in order for the rotor to make one full revolution) so when the shaft is at 12K the internals are spining at 4K

[JC-MP5]

Wewt for living baby eater!

[SpooledupRacing]

I cant wait

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so today I cleaned out the shed and the garage... I got the car backed in and up on jack stands..

The wheels are off and awaiting the guy to pick them up...

pics of the car now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_123.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_121.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_122.jpg

[JC-MP5]

She looks so.... alone. :(

[SpooledupRacing]

she is... I had to give her a big hug after I took her shoes off...

[JC-MP5]

YouTube - Hug your RX-8

[neox.286]

poor girl =(

be sure to give her some lovin' on occassion until you are able to make her all better!

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok I went back out to get some stuff removed form the car... I accomplished alot

Frt strut assemblies are out
frt sway bar and sway bar links are out
frt 4 lug hubs removed
passenger side tie end and ball joint are removed (both need replacing)
front bumper is removed


next step will be remove the front passenger fender, remove the intercooler and all piping, remove everything from the engine bay THEN onto other things.

pics of todays progress

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_125-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_126.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_124.jpg

These are still good but I'm gonna sell them :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_129.jpg

[JC-MP5]

You should gut her and stitch weld everything and do a cage! :P

[SpooledupRacing]

no cage... I want it to be 100% streetable until I need a cage at the track..

and I cant weld worth a crap.

[JC-MP5]

Have it welded by a shop. ;) And Cage it so you can track that bisch!

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah cage maybe but that will be last...

[JC-MP5]

Do it you wont! lol jk

Your car not mine. lol :P

[DemonIAm]

damn, you gonna paint her while she's nearly nekkid?

[JC-MP5]

Dave, what wheels u gona get this time round?

[SpooledupRacing]

Paint will happen not sure what color yet but I got a door in lingo and I need a fender yet.. then I will prolly go with a carbon fiber hood and sunroof.

but yes I will get it painted I think..


As for rims.. last year I was looking at sport max but im not sure anymore.. I got plenty of time yet for those..

[JC-MP5]

Well make a good, JDM choice! lol :P

[SpooledupRacing]

if I had the coin I would buy the 3 spokes

[JC-MP5]

I cant stand 3 spokes..... lol

Ahem.... VVV

http://www.dpirace.com/images/turbo008.jpg

[wes.pro5]

i wish that you were closer to houston. i know where a turbo II is that would make a great donor. it's got 180k on the motor and chassis, but is still daily driven. price tag? 2000, firm. might be worth the trip after all, huh?

[SpooledupRacing]

na my car in MINTY... little to no rust all the bolts come right off and its a BASE with some rare options (or lack there of I should say)

JC that car and rims are hideous

I like these rims

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/s145gonewide/RECO0032.jpg

[JC-MP5]

The car was raw man! Raw! lol

Dif'rent strokes.....

[SpooledupRacing]

these are the wheels I want actually

either
http://www.wheelmax.com/wheelcolors.asp?CtgId=3266&color=Hyper%20Light
OR
http://www.wheelmax.com/wheelcolorsMrF.asp?CtgId=3266&color=Gun%20Metal

OR

http://www.wheelmax.com/wheelcolors.asp?CtgId=13252&color=Silver

[JC-MP5]

The Gun Metal ones. #2 is my vote.

[SpooledupRacing]

I love 5Zigen though... so nice!!!

[SpooledupRacing]

I want either
17x7 frt and 17x9 rear
OR
17x8 front and 17x9 rear

no 18's

[JC-MP5]

From my Lehman's perspective...

I'd do 17x8 and 9. That fits under stocker fenders?

[SpooledupRacing]

with the correct offset it should.

[neox.286]

http://www.wheelmax.com/wheelcolors.asp?CtgId=13252&color=Silver

^^^
teh hawtness!

[SpooledupRacing]

AMEN.. I need to call and get a price. but not gonna worry about wheels till I get the diff, trans, driveshaft hubs, and brakes.

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so I came home and walked right to the garage..

in 15 minutes I did the following

removed the intercooler and piping
removed the passenger fender
pushed the bent piece of frame back out where the fender got hit (looks like NEW)
soaked the rear suspension and brakes down with PB Blaster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_135.jpg
Not sure if I will go back out and work on it tonight but I do know that I need to put more parts up for sale on ebay!

[SATimko]

Damn dawg. Nice progress.

[SpooledupRacing]

OK today I purchased the hubs front and rear with calipers. This will swap my car from 4 lug to 5 lug, give me bigger brakes and 4 piston calipers in the front instead of 1

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so my store on the other side of the state just received my 4 hubs with calipers and my passenger fender I bought from a guy who lives over by that store..

looks like I will have my first batch of parts come Thursday

pics will follow

[JC-MP5]

OK today I purchased the hubs front and rear with calipers. This will swap my car from 4 lug to 5 lug, give me bigger brakes and 4 piston calipers in the front instead of 1

Wewt!

[SpooledupRacing]

First set of parts came today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_153.jpg

Energy suspension full kit it is missing 2 sway bar link bushing (no biggie)

[wes.pro5]

i am getting ready for the build on my rx. i am going a lot bigger now that i have decided to keep it. i will have the build thread up when i start, but for now i will give you a few specs. stand-alone EMS, gt-35, and a baby-eater FMIC. we will match soon.

[SpooledupRacing]

SWEET.... lol

btw I have not figured out if I am gonna run Megasquirt 2 or haltec, or mo-tec or microtec..

so many choices and I HATE tuning lol

[JC-MP5]

I've heard good things about microtec....

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah a buddy of mine uses it and he has a sick RX

[wes.pro5]

i have heard good things about megasquirt and that is probably what i will run, but i just don't like having to build an ems. haltech is a lot easier and has definitely proven itself. i will probably do megasquirt and just rough through the install. i need someone local to help me out with it though.

[SpooledupRacing]

if u need someone to build it my buddy will do it
small fee and we can have one built for ya and he has an RX7 non turbo street port S5 with maga squirt and the mega squirt 2 chip

[wes.pro5]

i found someone in houston who said he knows megasquirt pretty well. i saw some of his work last weekend, and he is pretty good. i just have to get a hold of him now. i just know him through one of the houston boards.

[neox.286]

SWEET.... lol

btw I have not figured out if I am gonna run Megasquirt 2 or haltec, or mo-tec or microtec..

so many choices and I HATE tuning lol

I highly recommend the microtech...it is not difficult to install and from what I have seen of the software so far it is great...its also basically designed around tuning rotary engines, which is a major plus

haltech has better software from what I have seen too, but I dont have any experience with it....but from what everyone says its way better to tune than the microtech, however the tradeoff is it costs a few hundred bucks more

the megasquirt is the cheapest option, however it is also the most difficult as the software is all open source and not a 'all in one' software package...its a lot of research, and a lot of preparation, however it may wind up being able to give you more control....its not for the feint of heart, and if you hate tuning and/or are not experienced in that field it would probably take you a lot longer to get the car up and running, let alone to its full potential, because of that

i have heard good things about megasquirt and that is probably what i will run, but i just don't like having to build an ems. haltech is a lot easier and has definitely proven itself. i will probably do megasquirt and just rough through the install. i need someone local to help me out with it though.

www.diyautotune.com

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah my buddy said his micro tech was easy

[distr0]

i've built MS before

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so today I got my hubs and my fender.. I have to admit I am a bit disappointed however I got some stuff to work with so its a start

Here are the 5 lug hubs with calipers and just brakes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_154.jpg

The rotors obviously are not going to be used the calipers I was expecting to use however they are not worth anything to me because they are in rough shape so I will use them as core money toward a new (rebuilt) set from the shop and the hubs are COMPLETELY rusted to the rotors.. right now they are soaking in PG blaster.. I will coat them again in the morning and if I cant get them off tomorrow I will take them in to the shop and put the torch on them to heat them up and get them apart..

they will take LOTS of cleanup and wire wheels etc to get them back to useable however with some new studs and bearing I am confident that they will be useable.


and here is the passenger fender.. the good part of the deal.. it is in GREAT shape, not worried about the paint because it will be COMPLETELY sanded down put a gel on and primered so I can paint it along with the body in the spring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_158.jpg

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so the hubs are not coming off the rotors, I have done everything except torch the rotors off the hubs..

So I contcted the guy and he is gonna send me another set of HUBS ONLY I guess when those arrive I can conntinue

Today I bought a set of Urethane transmission bushings so those should show in a few days.

and tonight I will get to working on pulling the rear end apart

[aMaff]

I have done everything except torch the rotors off the hubs..
blue wrench ftw!

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah I have a very clean no rust car.. I'm not going to use these rusted turds.

[Protege v2.5]

Gear puller?

[SpooledupRacing]

na its just the fact that that horrible item does not belong on my car.. I am gonna see if the other ones are any better..

them ones I have now are SOO bad that I cant even bang the lug studs out.

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so yesterday I pulled the rear spindles off the car, I took them today to have the hubs pressed out and the bushing pressed out of the hubs

Here is what I have and started with

Started with:

Fronts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_214.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_213.jpg




Rears
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_157.jpg


Ended with:

fronts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_212.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_211-1.jpg

Rear:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_210.jpg

so yeah lots of progress...
Tonight I think I am going to buy some high gloss black to paint the hubs and spindles with.

I was thinking of bright pink for that "drifter" touch but NAAAAA!

[JC-MP5]

Ahahahaha Dorifto! lol

Excellent stuff! :D

[SpooledupRacing]

I just bought a turbo driveshaft.. now I need turbo axles a turbo LSD and a turbo trans and I will be all set to get the drivetrain underway..

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so I met up with a local guy who is parting a car and well I spent my trans and diff money..

this is what I got with my money

Fluidyne aluminum radiator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_229.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_228.jpg


Vented pass side headlight cover
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_227.jpg

[JC-MP5]

Yummy parts.

[SpooledupRacing]

u wont believe what I paid for the Radiator.. it was cheap.
I need about 150.00 so I can pickup the last two things I want from this guy!

[iracemine]

subin.

[SpooledupRacing]

Got these the other day

Banzai Racing urethane transmission mounts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_231.jpg

[JC-MP5]

u wont believe what I paid for the Radiator.. it was cheap.
I need about 150.00 so I can pickup the last two things I want from this guy!

I can has cheap radiator too? lol How much was it?

[SpooledupRacing]

150.00 no mileage, never had coolant in it just been sitting.

[SpooledupRacing]

I got my driveshaft on friday
S4 Turbo suposidly.. I need to cross the numbers to verify

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_239.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_238.jpg

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so today I got back to work on the 7..

Here is a few updates..

Front control arms had the bushings removed from them. I then cleaned them up with a wire wheel and painted them with a high gloss black paint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_242.jpg

After that I installed the new energy suspension bushings and put them back in the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_243.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_246.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_247.jpg



I then took the rear spindle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_209.jpg

removed the backing plate and took them to a shop to have the bushing and the wheel bearing and hub pressed out of it (done mid last week)

I brought it home and also cleaned it up with a wire wheel (again mid last week)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_210.jpg

and today I painted them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_245.jpg

Next will be to get some new ball joints, and new tie rod ends that way I can get the front spindles back on

then I will have the new rear bearings and hub pressed back together and then get the new bushings put in.

So yeah its progress but until I get a trans, diff and axles I am about done with putting parts back on (oh and new suspension)

[JC-MP5]

Sweetness!

[SpooledupRacing]

Thx... btw I fixed all the photo links.

[neox.286]

dave, nice work so far!

expect to hear from me more next year after you are done with the project....I'm getting ready for my next project car (FD chassis with a 20b turbo swap) and will be doing some mild porting and modifications to the motor....lol, I would appreciate a little help from someone whos already experienced a lot of the problems and knows how to avoid them now =P

[SpooledupRacing]

sounds good.. as far as the porting goes if u plan to do it yourself I can show u how its done.. if it is something that u are planning to send out I would love to be the one to do the port job for ya (at a much lower cost)

let me know.

[distr0]

(FD chassis with a 20b turbo swap)

wow $$$$$

i've read (on nopistons.com) that you should have ~$20,000 in your pocket before attempting a (proper) 20b swap

[SpooledupRacing]

20B swaps are nice but once I get my engine put together u guys one hell of a build lol

[neox.286]

wow $$$$$

i've read (on nopistons.com) that you should have ~$20,000 in your pocket before attempting a (proper) 20b swap

it shouldn't be quite that much, since I'm not going ALL out on it, however itll probably be upwards of 10-15k definately (lol, I'm already upwards of 10k into the msp, and considering I paid 14k on purchasing the car that is saying something lol)

dave: I'll definately hit you up for that...I just do not trust myself with porting on it...I know how finicky rotaries can be and I'd rather let someone who knows what they are doing take care of it haha

[SpooledupRacing]

No problem...

BTW guys tonight I prolly wont have any updates however I get my ball joints and tie rod ends tomorrow so I should have some updates tomorrow night.

[neox.286]

lol, at this rate dude youll have the car finished this year =P
(oh and btw [/threadjack] on my other point haha, sorry about that dave)

[SpooledupRacing]

na I still need to pull the diff, trans, axles shaft..

Just waiting to get another set of hands to help me with that.

[aMaff]

na I still need to pull the diff, trans, axles shaft..

Just waiting to get another set of hands to help me with that.

if it's anything like a miata rear end (I know they're very similar, the damn things nearly bolt up directly), the drive shaft and axles could be easily done alone (I know cuz I've done 'em), and with a good jack the pumpkin should drop right out once you unbolt the mounts.

So... what's the holdup? ;)

[SpooledupRacing]

time.. I want to pull the trans first...

[aMaff]

time.. I want to pull the trans first...

the prop shaft needs to come out before you can do that anyway. But yes, I would want an extra pair of hands to drop the trans as well.

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah I know how it all comes out I just want to get some extra hands so I dont kill myself..

[aMaff]

yeah I know how it all comes out I just want to get some extra hands so I dont kill myself..

oh yeah. Esp. w/ the trans. Do you have a trans jack? Totally worth it if you can jack the car up high enough. I'm going to be swapping mine (again) this winter, however I'm doing the engine too, so chances are everything's coming out and going in, in one piece. I'm also swapping the diff, so I feel your pain haha.

[SpooledupRacing]

my car is up on jack stands right now (as in the pics)

and o I sold my trans jack YEARS ago.

[aMaff]

I borrowed 1 of these from a buddy of mine:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178

I'm sure with your connections you could find something like it to borrow. I was working with jackstands when I did it the 1st two times (this last winter) as well.

[SpooledupRacing]

ah Ill do it by hand.. or a standard jack

[neox.286]

dude I couldn't imagine installing a rear wheel drive transmission like that

I had the hardest time reinstalling my transmission and its gotta be less than half the weight of your tranny! I spent hours with that and theres plenty of times that I'm surprised the tranny didnt just fall onto my legs and crush them >.<

an extra pair of hands FTMFW!

[iracemine]

you mean this???

http://www.themazdaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2767&d=1218976994


yeah a must for any trans jobs

[SpooledupRacing]

I use my hands and a regular jack if need be .. RWD trans pulls are easy

[neox.286]

lol, I guess if you are able to lift the tranny you should be set

I'm screwed there lol (115lbs FTMFL)

[SATimko]

Some rear drive transmissions aren't too heavy once the bellhousing is off (on those that are removable).

[SpooledupRacing]

ha I leave the bell on.. drop the entire trans by hand.. they are only about 125 lbs max

[njaremka]

i did tranny work on my old triumph spitfire - had to remove it out the passenger compartment, because the frame rails went underneath it. doesnt sound like fun, but it only weighed about 80lbs. :D

[neox.286]

ha I leave the bell on.. drop the entire trans by hand.. they are only about 125 lbs max

lol, still more than I weigh >.<

I swear, you all would have laughed your asses off seeing me trying to get the protege transmission back on the motor (outside of the car to boot!), it was quite a sight

[SpooledupRacing]

ok no pictures tonight just a quick update..

outer tie ends on
ball joints on
front spindles painted black and put on the b joints (awaiting new mounting bolts)

this weekend the trans, diff, axles will come out of the car as well as the rear sway bar and rear suspension

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so today back to work.. I removed:

transmission
differential
axles
driveshaft
rear subframe

So now that I have everything off I can begin to put the poly bushings in and get the more done..

I also have the front spindles on and the ball joints bolted down to the arms and spindle, and the tie rod end is sitting in the spindle as well..

Today I ordered up:
S4 TURBO LSD
S4 turbo axles
BRAND NEW set of KYB AGX struts

Once everything comes in I will get pictures and get things installed back in the car..

I also received a FREE front bumper today (those Forza Motorsport loves will recognise this

Mariah Front bumper (yes I have the screen)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_298.jpg

here are some pics of the rest of the removal..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_297.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_296.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_295.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_294.jpg

[RockinVs]

keep up the good work

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok so I went to the store today and bought a compressor to get things moving a bit quicker..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_309.jpg


Then I came home and after getting it all setup, the tools setup and the break in process complete.. I got to work on the rear subframe

Diff is off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_307.jpg


Rear control arms, trailing arms and rear control links are off
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_306.jpg

subframe is gutted and ready to be cleaned up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_308.jpg

So the next step is to clean everything up rear good, have the old bushings pressed out and the new bushings pressed in and then paint everything black.

[rotaryxperiment7]

looking sweet bro!
when its all said and done your gonna have a bad ass ride. you got racing seats or reg?

[SpooledupRacing]

I have ITR style reclinable racing seats.. I love them so much lol..

It's good to see u on here now start posting up in the rotary forum!

[rotaryxperiment7]

ya its me in the flush hehe.

lets see what else u have in store for us ;)

[SpooledupRacing]

Well only like 2 people know of my engine plans so hush hush there lol..

I will get more pics as more stuff develops

I got parts coming in and parts that need to be cleaned.

[SATimko]

I know!


Wait...I don't remember. I don't know now! hahaha.

[SpooledupRacing]

:-p lol greaaat then I guess u will be in for a shock

[kansei]

I vaguely recall what the plans are, and they're pretty good

[SpooledupRacing]

yeah the motor will be nice lol

[neox.286]

I'm I hearing hints of a peripheral port?

[SpooledupRacing]

no PP.. this will be a streetable car..

ok so today I ordered up my rear control arm bushings, I need to buy my DTSS bushings and the rear links yet.. among another things.

[SpooledupRacing]

I just ordered my springs.

tomorrow I buy my DTSS bushings

[SpooledupRacing]

just bought rear diff and subframe mounts and dtss elim bushings

[SpooledupRacing]

Ok parts arrived today..

I received:
both rear control arm lower pivot bushings
all 4 rubber seals for the above bushings
both snap rings needed to instal the above bushings

I also received:
both rear control arm upper bushings

Parts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_324.jpg

New stuff:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_327.jpg

So I did the bottom pivot bushing on my own.. very simple job

old stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_326-1.jpg


Anyways when I get the other bushings on I will post pictures..


**how to replace pivot bushings**

http://www.themazdaforum.com/showthread.php?p=161947#post161947

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so I took my control arms in to have the last 2 bushings pressed out and have 1 installed..

I got the call saying they were done and the total was 35.00

I get there and they removed 1 bushing and replaced it but the large bushing that goes to the subframe was still intact.. they said that they could not get it out..

I went home and burned it out HOWEVER the new bushings wont go in because there is a collar that needs to be pressed out..

anyways pics of the rubber on fire

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_334.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_335.jpg

[SpooledupRacing]

OK so I cut some slits in the shells to relieve some pressure and I pounded them out wiht a screwdriver and socket..

Now the new Energy Suspension bushings are in

The shells I had to remove (2 per arm)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_340.jpg

The new energy suspension bushings in the arm (crappy pics)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_341.jpg

[Red5_02]

Bushings are such a pain to replace.

[SpooledupRacing]

up until that large one I had to burn out the shop has pressed all the other old ones out and the new ones have just fallin right in.

I did the pivot bushing but it was super easy.. that large one just sucked!

[SpooledupRacing]

quick update but no pictures..

both of the rear control arms have been painted black.. and both of the rear trailing bars were also painted black.

cleaned the garage and once parts arrive I can continue on.

Dave

[rotaryxperiment7]

here is a update from dave, i thought i'd copy it and post it here. we should still keep up to date on what he is doing:

Struts arrived today... KYB AGZ struts BRAND NEW...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_348.jpg

tomorrow I should be receiving my other mounts/bushings and then on Wednesday I will be getting my springs..

[Protege v2.5]

Dude..............Pooo?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q134/MZ424/0_IMAGE_334.jpg

[iracemine]

#1 reason I dont have a dog.

[SATimko]

Moved for Dave to update.

[SpooledupRacing]

9-17-08

Ok so I came home today and my next package arrived..

Tanabe Springs TGF032

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_351.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_352.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_353.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_354.jpg

These will be going on my AGX struts. I just need to buy my strut mounts so I can get them assembled

[SpooledupRacing]

9-19-08


Well I got the mounts today

I am waiting to hear back from MMR on them because well I received 4 mounts that match IDENTICALLY in size (length, hat depth, diameter, etc) and I go the DTSS elims..

the 4 mounts are 1 pr of diff mounts and 1 pair of rear subframe mounts but even though they are physically the exact same part the subframe mounts were 5.00 more. and I don't know why.

anyways tomorrow I pick up my LSD and axles, I hope to get all the mounts installed and then I can move on..


Today I also received my KYB front strut mounts

KYB front strut mounts:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_358.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_357.jpg


MMR mounts:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_361.jpg

[SpooledupRacing]

9-21-08



OK the MMR DTSS elims were put in ust a few minutes ago..

I just lined them up and punched them in with a 3lb sledge hammer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_363.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_365.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_364.jpg

[pro5x2]

Sup Dave! You back? Glad to see the Rexy is still coming together!!

[SpooledupRacing]

here is a update from dave, i thought i'd copy it and post it here. we should still keep up to date on what he is doing:

Struts arrived today... KYB AGZ struts BRAND NEW...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/0_IMAGE_348.jpg

tomorrow I should be receiving my other mounts/bushings and then on Wednesday I will be getting my springs..







btw here is the pics of the struts


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_348.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/turboTSI/RX7%20BUILD/0_IMAGE_349.jpg

[CrashKelly]

looking good brotha!

[SpooledupRacing]

Thx.. I should get my perches and rear mounts today or tomorrow and then I can assemble the struts and get more pics.

[aMaff]

Here's my qualm with this: define 'complete'. Because when I think complete, I think quality performance parts. KYBs don't even blip on the radar for that...

Maybe it's because I'm a slut for suspension... just wondering. What's the purpose of all this? Track? Drag? Autox? General fun mobile? Just curious.

[CrashKelly]

Here's my qualm with all this: define 'complete'. Because when I think complete, I think quality performance parts. KYBs don't even blip on the radar for that...

maybe it is just me but i dont even think anythign about quality when i read the title....it just says that it is his complete build thread....all that means to me is that he is tracking his build to completion...i dont see what that has to do with the quality of the parts...that and there is nothing wrong with KYB...I mean they aren't top of the line, but they arent garbage either

[SpooledupRacing]

Complete build means I will be posting EVERYTHING I do from start to finish.. aka COMPLETE..

IME on RX7's do quite well on AGX struts and performance springs.

I could have went with coil overs (like K-sport) but honestly I have no need for all of that..

The amount of track use and what I want out of the car agx will do just fine.

remember this is just the start... again Complete... suspension, interior, body, engine... EVERYTHING..


thx for looking.. I appreciate your feedback. Hopefully u will stay and enjoy the rest of the ride

[SpooledupRacing]

maybe it is just me but i dont even think anythign about quality when i read the title....it just says that it is his complete build thread....all that means to me is that he is tracking his build to completion...i dont see what that has to do with the quality of the parts...that and there is nothing wrong with KYB...I mean they aren't top of the line, but they arent garbage either



As some of you know.. FC RX7's were known for having a GREAT suspension stock.. and fromt he factory the cars came with KYB struts :)


anyways back to the thread.

[aMaff]

maybe it is just me but i dont even think anythign about quality when i read the title....it just says that it is his complete build thread....all that means to me is that he is tracking his build to completion...i dont see what that has to do with the quality of the parts...that and there is nothing wrong with KYB...I mean they aren't top of the line, but they arent garbage either

fair enough, maybe I'm reading too much into this.

And... depending on what you compare them to, they aren't that great.

BTW, I wasn't able to find any info on the AGZ... do you mean the AGX? If so, I know a set in the sentra community and a set in the miata community have been put on shock dyno's in the past, and the found that 1) no AGX is valved the same. Even both fronts and both rears are can be totally different, 2) the adjustments are very inconsistent, and 3) on more than 1 occasion, a full sweep on the adjustments made such a negligible change on the valving to be nearly non existent.

[CrashKelly]

Complete build means I will be posting EVERYTHING I do from start to finish.. aka COMPLETE..

IME on RX7's do quite well on AGX struts and performance springs.

I could have went with coil overs (like K-sport) but honestly I have no need for all of that..

The amount of track use and what I want out of the car agx will do just fine.

remember this is just the start... again Complete... suspension, interior, body, engine... EVERYTHING..


thx for looking.. I appreciate your feedback. Hopefully u will stay and enjoy the rest of the ride


Actually I think KYB has a better Rep than K-Sport anyways....My bro did his Suby suspension with Springs and KYBs and worked out just fine.

Amaff is just pampered with his Miata...90% of guys putting a street car together dont need to even go past springs to get what they want lol

[aMaff]

thx for looking.. I appreciate your feedback. Hopefully u will stay and enjoy the rest of the ride

Hey, I'm not going anywhere. Like I said, I'm a slut for suspension so I wanted to get a couple questions answered ;)


PS: I'd get AGXs before I got K-Sports, any day of the week.

[CrashKelly]

fair enough, maybe I'm reading too much into this.

And... depending on what you compare them to, they aren't that great.

BTW, I wasn't able to find any info on the AGZ... do you mean the AGX? If so, I know a set in the sentra community and a set in the miata community have been put on shock dyno's in the past, and the found that 1) no AGX is valved the same. Even both fronts and both rears are can be totally different, 2) the adjustments are very inconsistent, and 3) on more than 1 occasion, a full sweep on the adjustments made such a negligible change on the valving to be nearly non existent.

bummer, that info makes baby jesus cry...they did a Ksport test like that and it was posted on 24-7 with similarly poor results

[CrashKelly]

Hey, I'm not going anywhere. Like I said, I'm a slut for suspension so I wanted to get a couple questions answered ;)


PS: I'd get AGXs before I got K-Sports, any day of the week.

off topic, i hear miata guys dont even use a suspension system...they just glue their cars on the tarmac

[SpooledupRacing]

if I wrote AGZ I apologise.. I meant AGX...

and honestly I will have WELL over 10G into this car and trying to do this before next spring.. so I have to cut some corners somewhere.. again we all know I could have choose worse.. I did atleast go with the AGX over the K Sport :)

[CrashKelly]

if I wrote AGZ I apologise.. I meant AGX...

and honestly I will have WELL over 10G into this car and trying to do this before next spring.. so I have to cut some corners somewhere.. again we all know I could have choose worse.. I did atleast go with the AGX over the K Sport :)

better than Ebay super Type R racing suspension!

[aMaff]

off topic, i hear miata guys dont even use a suspension system...they just glue their cars on the tarmac

Velcro actually. Glue is a myth; it hardens too much. Velcro allows the wheels to turn freely.

[CrashKelly]

Velcro actually. Glue is a myth; it hardens too much. Velcro allows the wheels to turn freely.

lol, the secret is out!

[SpooledupRacing]

wow... ok well after I get my perches and mounts my next step will be to have my mmr bushings pressed in my diff and subframe.

then to buy more mounts/bars etc.

[CrashKelly]

I may have missed this in the 16 pages on this thread but do you have engine plans...well other than rebuilding it? Perhaps larger than stock turbo kit?

[SpooledupRacing]

I don't want to let the cat out of the bag HOWEVER I will tell u this..

EVERYTHING (minus rotors) will be BRAND NEW (plates, housings etc)

and I will be on a stand alone so nothing will be stock.

[pro5x2]

I don't want to let the cat out of the bag HOWEVER I will tell u this..

EVERYTHING (minus rotors) will be BRAND NEW (plates, housings etc)

and I will be on a stand alone so nothing will be stock.

Dude, this thing is gonna be sick. Loving the progress pics BTW

[SpooledupRacing]

Thank you sir... I'll tyr and not disappoint.

[CrashKelly]

I don't want to let the cat out of the bag HOWEVER I will tell u this..

EVERYTHING (minus rotors) will be BRAND NEW (plates, housings etc)

and I will be on a stand alone so nothing will be stock.

awesomeness, cant wait to see

[RockinVs]

glad to see you back and working.

keep them miata dorks outa here!

[SpooledupRacing]

back yes... working.. never stopped :)

[SpooledupRacing]

if you want to see more of this follow


http://rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=4054



Sorry guys but I have to leave TMF.

[aMaff]

Sorry guys but I have to leave TMF.

Come again?

[SpooledupRacing]

http://www.themazdaforum.com/showthread.php?p=166419#post166419

[rotaryxperiment7]

http://www.themazdaforum.com/showthread.php?t=5843

[rotaryxperiment7]

I talk to Dave quite regularly (well daily lol) and I figured you guys who were interested should see this


http://rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=4054&page=4


that should catch you up with his progress.. He has done ALOT and soon will be starting on the engine...

Dave has to much damn knowledge in these rotaries and its good to see he is still moving forward on his build..

Its a shame that he had to go.. He had so much to offer here for the rotary forum. I mean look at what he accomplished in the short time he was THE rotary mod

Anyways hopefully u guys can all see it its worth keeping up with..

[SATimko]

Glad to see it's coming along. And yes, it is a shame that he left.

[rotaryxperiment7]

I just got confirmation that the engine parts start rolling in within the next month.. keep looking for updates..

[bazooka joe]

i liked dave...read about his build, cool

[rotaryxperiment7]

Yeah, he has got alot of time into it. At first I thought he was just going to do another engine but then he decided to just do the entire car. At the rate he is going early spring will be a possibility. I cant wait. I know what's in store you guys will see if u keep looking, it is going to be bad ass.