So I started tearing down the MSP ...

[GOTBOOST]

Well thanks to Pat,
I am well on my way to getting the trans out of the MSP.
The only thing left is to support the trans and unbolt it from the
motor. then the fun begins ... trying to find the cause of the
3 speed trans.
Anyway I thought I would through up some pics:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1087.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1089.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1091.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1093.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1086.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_1095.jpg

[ForceFed]

Looks like you have/Had a busted CV boot....you got crap all over the inside of the Passenger wheel well.

[TWISFM]

are you parting out. i would be interested in valve cover

[ForceFed]

Think he is just fixing the tranny.
It has two missing gears.

[GOTBOOST]

Looks like you have/Had a busted CV boot....you got crap all over the inside of the Passenger wheel well.
naah ... that would be LOTS of breakaway lube!

[pdhaudio83]

Looks good man. Sad. Grand Rapids is eating Protege transmissions!

[ForceFed]

I told you guys Michigan Sucks

[ForceFed]

And Wheres my damn Stickers pat.

[mgerth]

You get the tranny out yet? :) Going to pull the tranny apart yourself?

[pdhaudio83]

And Wheres my damn Stickers pat.

soon as I get them in the mail, i'll ship em ;) should be any day.

[neox.286]

naah ... that would be LOTS of breakaway lube!

lol, those axles are a BITCH aren't they?

especially that passenger side one....every single protege I have worked on tends to have the passenger side axle spline basically seize up inside the wheel hub >.<

[ForceFed]

its from all the torque.

[Jackelope]

soon as I get them in the mail, i'll ship em ;) should be any day.

i can 2nd that statement (bow)

[Sveivo]

Looks major, just short of epic ;)

its from all the torque.

You can say that again. Even my P5 loses traction due to uneven surfaces in 1st gear :woa:

[KrayzieFox]

Those are great pics man. I have to replace my driver side axle soon and those pics are probably gonna help. Good luck with everything, I hope for a speedy recovery for your Protege.

[TreFlip999]

LOL i knew someone was going to ask about a part-out...Damn vultures

[ForceFed]

You can say that again. Even my P5 loses traction due to uneven surfaces in 1st gear :woa:I was highly sarcastic about the Torque Statement....If you think these cars have torque..I would like to see your list of past/presently owned cars . :shrug:

[neox.286]

hahahahahaha
I do gotta admit though, my last dyno was more torque than horsepower

but that still doesnt mean it has a lot of torque haha

[GOTBOOST]

You get the tranny out yet? :) Going to pull the tranny apart yourself?

I hope to have the trans out today and yup, I'm going to crack
it open myself and see what broke.

[SpooledupRacing]

If you need any help let me know Tim...

[GOTBOOST]

If you need any help let me know Tim...

You got it!!

[SpooledupRacing]

today wont work but anytime after today should be fine.

[GOTBOOST]

OK, the tranny is out and I thought I would share some more pics of
this insane idea I had of fixing this myself.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1104.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1105.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1108.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1110.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1113.jpg

[GOTBOOST]

Now after looking at the inside of this thing for over 1 1/2 hrs
I can't see anything broke or damaged with the forks or gearing
so I'm taking it into a trans shop near here and they get back
to me tomorrow with the culprit.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1114.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1119.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/trans%20rebuild/100_1120.jpg

[neox.286]

what were the symptoms? why where you taking it out?

if its a broken lsd the part that breaks is on the other side of what you are looking at I believe...

[pdhaudio83]

yah, try picking up the final gear (LSD)

[GOTBOOST]

The problem was I had no 1st or 2nd gear. I mean it just would
not go up or down from neutral. I thought if the diff go's then
the car don't move at all? I still drove in 3,4,5 and reverse.
Ace transmition is looking at it for free since it's out of the car.

[neox.286]

were you able to get normal speeds out of 3, 4, and 5? or was it acting like it was having a hard time going in those gears? if its the later, then its the lsd....if its the former, then idk lol

[GOTBOOST]

were you able to get normal speeds out of 3, 4, and 5? or was it acting like it was having a hard time going in those gears? if its the later, then its the lsd....if its the former, then idk lol
nope no problem get up to speed in those gears.
I just got off the phone with Ace and they said that some bearings
and small brass gears in between the drive gears were bound up and
thats why it woundn't go into those gears. They are waiting on prices
for parts and will call back yet today. They also new about the diff problems
and will give me a quote for that too.

[neox.286]

yea get that bitch welded while its out of the car

as for the gears, I think I misunderstood you originally...I thought you were able to get it into those gears lol

[pdhaudio83]

nope no problem get up to speed in those gears.
I just got off the phone with Ace and they said that some bearings
and small brass gears in between the drive gears were bound up and
thats why it woundn't go into those gears. They are waiting on prices
for parts and will call back yet today. They also new about the diff problems
and will give me a quote for that too.

dude that seriously sounds a bit... interesting.

people are driving much harder than you and haven't had issues.

take it to Borgman Mazda see what Mike Capizzi says (He's like top 15 in the nation in Mazda mechanics) They charged me like $500 to rebuild my trans when the shift fork busted... get it done right the first time...

[pdhaudio83]

meh?

[GOTBOOST]

just got off the phone with Ace and looks like I need a sec. opinion
I don't want to spend $1700!!!

[SpooledupRacing]

holy shit... take it to Borgman and talk to Mike Tell him Dave Hensler and Dan Schneider sent u ... he will do ya good!

[pdhaudio83]

just got off the phone with Ace and looks like I need a sec. opinion
I don't want to spend $1700!!!

I had a feeling man. I paid $1100? to have mine completely rebuilt.

Fuck $1700.

Bring it to Borgman and get a quote... make SURE that Mike Capizzi works on it (I think he's the only one with the credentials to do so...)

That's a joke. You should tell Ace to fuck themselves. (literally)

Make sure you talk to Paul Peppel... he knows me well :)

[GOTBOOST]

Well its' done and back in! the brass rings and gears were all
mashed up and they had to replace the hub assembly.
On a good note though since they had the trans apart already
they welded my diff. for me.
I guess what's done is done, atleast I have my baby back!!!

[neox.286]

yay for killing two birds with one stone!

[Red5_02]

Well its' done and back in! the brass rings and gears were all
mashed up and they had to replace the hub assembly.
On a good note though since they had the trans apart already
they welded my diff. for me.
I guess what's done is done, atleast I have my baby back!!!

Awesomeness.