You know you're ELITE when...

[daedalus]

you can get your MSP to do this...

http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/WINTER071.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/WINTER072.JPG

Video here: http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/DSCF0004.AVI

Right click, save as...


As for the video, its just shitty digi cam quality... but it is slightly misleading... for a portion of it the speed is staying around 140, because i was off throttle goin underneath an underpass that has a bit of a bump in it, and then i got back on it towards the end of the video. I did not obviously take the car up to redline, or fuel cut, because i kept thinking about Brian... I just wanted to do it because that punk kid on msprotege.com thinks his stock msp can do like 151 or something, so i wanted to PM him the photos and ask for him to give me his eveidence...

[daedalus]

you can get your MSP to do this...

http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/WINTER071.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/WINTER072.JPG

Video here: http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/winter/DSCF0004.AVI

Right click, save as...


As for the video, its just shitty digi cam quality... but it is slightly misleading... for a portion of it the speed is staying around 140, because i was off throttle goin underneath an underpass that has a bit of a bump in it, and then i got back on it towards the end of the video. I did not obviously take the car up to redline, or fuel cut, because i kept thinking about Brian... I just wanted to do it because that punk kid on msprotege.com thinks his stock msp can do like 151 or something, so i wanted to PM him the photos and ask for him to give me his eveidence...

[BRIAN MP5T]

That Must have sounded Really Painfull...

I like doing shit like that in Rental Cars... :)

Not when My "A$$" is on the line...

[BRIAN MP5T]

That Must have sounded Really Painfull...

I like doing shit like that in Rental Cars... :)

Not when My "A$$" is on the line...

[daedalus]

lol... lets just put it this way, i dont make a habit of it. not at least until i get a fully built head to withstand the abuse, but even then it will still sound like its going to rev to destruction.

[daedalus]

lol... lets just put it this way, i dont make a habit of it. not at least until i get a fully built head to withstand the abuse, but even then it will still sound like its going to rev to destruction.

[BRIAN MP5T]

We really need a Final Drive that can support Top Speed.

[BRIAN MP5T]

We really need a Final Drive that can support Top Speed.

[daedalus]

yea no shit... its my new purpose in life. My MSP's new goal is 170mph top speed. Were gonna do GTX tranny, and custom quife, custom front splitter, underbody panels, and rear diffusers... smooth all of that rough air out and suck her down on to the pavement.

expensive project, but it hasnt been done before, so its right up my ally, and the engineering and design into a prject like that is what attracts me. ITs not something you can throw together overnight.

[daedalus]

yea no shit... its my new purpose in life. My MSP's new goal is 170mph top speed. Were gonna do GTX tranny, and custom quife, custom front splitter, underbody panels, and rear diffusers... smooth all of that rough air out and suck her down on to the pavement.

expensive project, but it hasnt been done before, so its right up my ally, and the engineering and design into a prject like that is what attracts me. ITs not something you can throw together overnight.

[BRIAN MP5T]

This is why I started the 944..

Want a fast car... Buy a Fast Car.. :)

[BRIAN MP5T]

This is why I started the 944..

Want a fast car... Buy a Fast Car.. :)

[KzA]

wow...your nuts! Good luck on the project, cant wait to see what you decide needs to be done on the body. Got a local windtunnel?

[KzA]

wow...your nuts! Good luck on the project, cant wait to see what you decide needs to be done on the body. Got a local windtunnel?

[daedalus]

Nope, but i do have a local guy who builds pans for race cars and knows tons of stuff about underbody areodynamics. Used to work on a nascar team. So i'll be enlisting his services to actually fabricate the panels.

Just waiting on funds...

[daedalus]

Nope, but i do have a local guy who builds pans for race cars and knows tons of stuff about underbody areodynamics. Used to work on a nascar team. So i'll be enlisting his services to actually fabricate the panels.

Just waiting on funds...

[greendragon]

While you are waiting for funds I think you will also need a Gtech pro to calculate your speed . You are pined at over 140 mph at 6.5 grand ,thats fast .

[greendragon]

While you are waiting for funds I think you will also need a Gtech pro to calculate your speed . You are pined at over 140 mph at 6.5 grand ,thats fast .

[daedalus]

While you are waiting for funds I think you will also need a Gtech pro to calculate your speed . You are pined at over 140 mph at 6.5 grand ,thats fast .


Last time i had my TT that told me a read out of the speeed (i went a bit faster last time, but it was like 243km/h or 151mph), but unforunatly, i fried my TT so i had nothing to go off of this time to compare...

Its frozen with this on it... all the time.. car on, or off, totally unresponsive...
http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/sale/sale001.JPG

Moral of story... dont jump your car unless you really cant avoid it.

[daedalus]

While you are waiting for funds I think you will also need a Gtech pro to calculate your speed . You are pined at over 140 mph at 6.5 grand ,thats fast .


Last time i had my TT that told me a read out of the speeed (i went a bit faster last time, but it was like 243km/h or 151mph), but unforunatly, i fried my TT so i had nothing to go off of this time to compare...

Its frozen with this on it... all the time.. car on, or off, totally unresponsive...
http://www.msprotege.com/members/daedalus/sale/sale001.JPG

Moral of story... dont jump your car unless you really cant avoid it.

[BRIAN MP5T]

GPS = Accurate Speed All The Way To 999.99 Km/h

[BRIAN MP5T]

GPS = Accurate Speed All The Way To 999.99 Km/h

[daedalus]

GPS = Accurate Speed All The Way To 999.99 Km/h

Oh... when we go for a top speed run next time were documenting it on film with GPS in the car... that way nobody can say... ooo i dont belive you.

[daedalus]

GPS = Accurate Speed All The Way To 999.99 Km/h

Oh... when we go for a top speed run next time were documenting it on film with GPS in the car... that way nobody can say... ooo i dont belive you.

[BRIAN MP5T]

Oh... when we go for a top speed run next time were documenting it on film with GPS in the car... that way nobody can say... ooo i dont belive you.

It's what I have planned for my runs to 180 MPH in the 944.

300 Km/H is a nice round number..

[BRIAN MP5T]

Oh... when we go for a top speed run next time were documenting it on film with GPS in the car... that way nobody can say... ooo i dont belive you.

It's what I have planned for my runs to 180 MPH in the 944.

300 Km/H is a nice round number..

[jflo]

o_o that's effin' nuts man...the only time i ever attempted to go past even 100mph was a couple of months after i got the car in 2003. i've never tried that again. anyway, good luck with the top speed runs ! you too, brian

[jflo]

o_o that's effin' nuts man...the only time i ever attempted to go past even 100mph was a couple of months after i got the car in 2003. i've never tried that again. anyway, good luck with the top speed runs ! you too, brian

[505zoom]

...Were gonna do GTX tranny...

A 323 GTX tranny? Forgive me if I am wrong here, but not only is the GTX tranny a 4wd unit, those guys have seemingly been having more trouble with their's than any of us has had with our's. At lower power levels than a lot of us are at too. Build the protege G15 up with custom guts and some bracing on the case and you will be a lot better off than you would with a whole GTX tranny. Or if you really want to play with the top speed shit then go for that quaife 6 speed box.(naughty)

[505zoom]

...Were gonna do GTX tranny...

A 323 GTX tranny? Forgive me if I am wrong here, but not only is the GTX tranny a 4wd unit, those guys have seemingly been having more trouble with their's than any of us has had with our's. At lower power levels than a lot of us are at too. Build the protege G15 up with custom guts and some bracing on the case and you will be a lot better off than you would with a whole GTX tranny. Or if you really want to play with the top speed shit then go for that quaife 6 speed box.(naughty)

[BRIAN MP5T]

Build the protege G15 up with custom guts and some bracing on the case and you will be a lot better off than you would with a whole GTX tranny.

What fails first at 400 WHP, the case or the gears?

[BRIAN MP5T]

Build the protege G15 up with custom guts and some bracing on the case and you will be a lot better off than you would with a whole GTX tranny.

What fails first at 400 WHP, the case or the gears?

[505zoom]

What fails first at 400 WHP, the case or the gears?

Well obviously the gears fail and the case stays in tact, but there has been some talk of the G series tranny having some give in the case that can cause the gears to try and come apart a little bit. It is most definitely a lot easier to shear the teeth off of a gear when that is happening, because the strength of the gear is weaker out towards the tips of the teeth. I honestly don't believe that the problems that people are having with the Protege tranny is from ONLY the gears... I think there is a lot more to it than just putting stronger cogs in there.

[505zoom]

What fails first at 400 WHP, the case or the gears?

Well obviously the gears fail and the case stays in tact, but there has been some talk of the G series tranny having some give in the case that can cause the gears to try and come apart a little bit. It is most definitely a lot easier to shear the teeth off of a gear when that is happening, because the strength of the gear is weaker out towards the tips of the teeth. I honestly don't believe that the problems that people are having with the Protege tranny is from ONLY the gears... I think there is a lot more to it than just putting stronger cogs in there.

[BRIAN MP5T]

Well obviously the gears fail and the case stays in tact, but there has been some talk of the G series tranny having some give in the case that can cause the gears to try and come apart a little bit. It is most definitely a lot easier to shear the teeth off of a gear when that is happening, because the strength of the gear is weaker out towards the tips of the teeth. I honestly don't believe that the problems that people are having with the Protege tranny is from ONLY the gears... I think there is a lot more to it than just putting stronger cogs in there.

I honestly had no information so my question was not meant to sound stupid..
(naughty)

I was just thinking that perhaps more likely that the aluminium case was letting go due to the stress, and not just that the gears would strip. Bummer. It would be easier to hold the case together than build new gears.

[BRIAN MP5T]

Well obviously the gears fail and the case stays in tact, but there has been some talk of the G series tranny having some give in the case that can cause the gears to try and come apart a little bit. It is most definitely a lot easier to shear the teeth off of a gear when that is happening, because the strength of the gear is weaker out towards the tips of the teeth. I honestly don't believe that the problems that people are having with the Protege tranny is from ONLY the gears... I think there is a lot more to it than just putting stronger cogs in there.

I honestly had no information so my question was not meant to sound stupid..
(naughty)

I was just thinking that perhaps more likely that the aluminium case was letting go due to the stress, and not just that the gears would strip. Bummer. It would be easier to hold the case together than build new gears.

[505zoom]

No not stupid at all, and yes according to a few other boards, that is pretty much what is happening. If the case doesn't hold up 100% to the stress, then that can cause the gears to seperate ever so slightly. When that happens, the gears can seperate and be more likely to break. I have no physical proof of this theory since my tranny is fine, but there have been a lot of people that have put down some decent power on the G series tranny, and a lot of them ended up doing the same thing with some thick metal bracing on the sides of the case. It was well over a year ago that I read up on that, but I will see if I can find any of the direct info to share.

[505zoom]

No not stupid at all, and yes according to a few other boards, that is pretty much what is happening. If the case doesn't hold up 100% to the stress, then that can cause the gears to seperate ever so slightly. When that happens, the gears can seperate and be more likely to break. I have no physical proof of this theory since my tranny is fine, but there have been a lot of people that have put down some decent power on the G series tranny, and a lot of them ended up doing the same thing with some thick metal bracing on the sides of the case. It was well over a year ago that I read up on that, but I will see if I can find any of the direct info to share.

[BRIAN MP5T]

No not stupid at all, and yes according to a few other boards, that is pretty much what is happening. If the case doesn't hold up 100% to the stress, then that can cause the gears to seperate ever so slightly.


Isn't Turfburn working on Gears?

P.S. This has turned into a threadjack.

I'll split this on Monday some time..

[BRIAN MP5T]

No not stupid at all, and yes according to a few other boards, that is pretty much what is happening. If the case doesn't hold up 100% to the stress, then that can cause the gears to seperate ever so slightly.


Isn't Turfburn working on Gears?

P.S. This has turned into a threadjack.

I'll split this on Monday some time..

[daedalus]

Yes, the GTX tranny is a 4wd tranny. What i actually mean, is the gears out of the GTX tranny. 1st and 2nd are strong enough to hold the power, and you never will get traction enough to shatter them, but you can take the gears out of the 323 GTX tranny and literally press them right on where the weak stock MSP stuff is. The gears are longer, and stronger. Best yet, you can get the 3rd and 4th gears brand new from mazda for 165 bucks, and i'm going to be taking the Ford Festiva's 5th gear which is hardened like the 323 GTX, but has a .69 ratio! Can you say 180mph?

All in all, the setup has been used for the Probe guys for years and years and seems to hold up to about 450hp with no problems. Labor included, it looked like it was gonna run me about 500-600 bucks to do, cheaper if i just picked up a used tranny out of a junkyard.

My source of info (Great read BTW): http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123621638

[daedalus]

Yes, the GTX tranny is a 4wd tranny. What i actually mean, is the gears out of the GTX tranny. 1st and 2nd are strong enough to hold the power, and you never will get traction enough to shatter them, but you can take the gears out of the 323 GTX tranny and literally press them right on where the weak stock MSP stuff is. The gears are longer, and stronger. Best yet, you can get the 3rd and 4th gears brand new from mazda for 165 bucks, and i'm going to be taking the Ford Festiva's 5th gear which is hardened like the 323 GTX, but has a .69 ratio! Can you say 180mph?

All in all, the setup has been used for the Probe guys for years and years and seems to hold up to about 450hp with no problems. Labor included, it looked like it was gonna run me about 500-600 bucks to do, cheaper if i just picked up a used tranny out of a junkyard.

My source of info (Great read BTW): http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123621638

[jaw307]

wow, how did you get around the governed speed of about 130? thats awsome I am excited to see more progress on this.

by the way I know a good source for transmissions its a local guy that has amazing work done on dsm's but I am sure he would be up to the task
the name is TRE if your a former dsm guy I am sure you know the name
http://www.teamrip.com
just putting it out there, he CNCs some of his gears and created his own tolerances for gear sets to make them perfect.

[jaw307]

wow, how did you get around the governed speed of about 130? thats awsome I am excited to see more progress on this.

by the way I know a good source for transmissions its a local guy that has amazing work done on dsm's but I am sure he would be up to the task
the name is TRE if your a former dsm guy I am sure you know the name
http://www.teamrip.com
just putting it out there, he CNCs some of his gears and created his own tolerances for gear sets to make them perfect.

[daedalus]

Yea, i actually had a TRE rebuilt tranny in my 1G DSM before i sold it to get the speed. Hes a good guy that knows his shit.

The microtech standalone is what allowed me over the stock goverened speed of 137.

[daedalus]

Yea, i actually had a TRE rebuilt tranny in my 1G DSM before i sold it to get the speed. Hes a good guy that knows his shit.

The microtech standalone is what allowed me over the stock goverened speed of 137.

[jaw307]

yeah his shop is crazy its like 2 minutes from my house.

can unichip be programed to override the gov? probably not oh well no were to go that fast around here anyways. 130 is good for now

[jaw307]

yeah his shop is crazy its like 2 minutes from my house.

can unichip be programed to override the gov? probably not oh well no were to go that fast around here anyways. 130 is good for now

[daedalus]

yeah his shop is crazy its like 2 minutes from my house.

can unichip be programed to override the gov? probably not oh well no were to go that fast around here anyways. 130 is good for now

Nope. The only way around the stock govenor, is to completly remove the stock ECU, aka going standalone. And you can do 137 too! Not just 130! (breakn)

[daedalus]

yeah his shop is crazy its like 2 minutes from my house.

can unichip be programed to override the gov? probably not oh well no were to go that fast around here anyways. 130 is good for now

Nope. The only way around the stock govenor, is to completly remove the stock ECU, aka going standalone. And you can do 137 too! Not just 130! (breakn)

[BRIAN MP5T]

Yes, the GTX tranny is a 4wd tranny. .... Blah Blah Blah


Noice!

[BRIAN MP5T]

Yes, the GTX tranny is a 4wd tranny. .... Blah Blah Blah


Noice!

[BRIAN MP5T]

Nope. The only way around the stock govenor, is to completly remove the stock ECU, aka going standalone. And you can do 137 too! Not just 130! (breakn)

My dealer disabled the Rev Limit and Speed Limit...

He knew I would never be back for a claim...

[BRIAN MP5T]

Nope. The only way around the stock govenor, is to completly remove the stock ECU, aka going standalone. And you can do 137 too! Not just 130! (breakn)

My dealer disabled the Rev Limit and Speed Limit...

He knew I would never be back for a claim...

[t3ase]

My dealer disabled the Rev Limit and Speed Limit...

He knew I would never be back for a claim...
They can do that at normal dealerships?

[t3ase]

My dealer disabled the Rev Limit and Speed Limit...

He knew I would never be back for a claim...
They can do that at normal dealerships?

[BRIAN MP5T]

They can do that at normal dealerships?

I became good fiends with my service guys at Mazda. They thought that a Guy Buying a new car, who was not affraid to break it was cool...

[BRIAN MP5T]

They can do that at normal dealerships?

I became good fiends with my service guys at Mazda. They thought that a Guy Buying a new car, who was not affraid to break it was cool...

[jaw307]

I work for the dealership and I am not sure how to disable the gov. dang I feel stupid.

[jaw307]

I work for the dealership and I am not sure how to disable the gov. dang I feel stupid.

[BRIAN MP5T]

I work for the dealership and I am not sure how to disable the gov. dang I feel stupid.

They removed the ECU and connected to a computer in the Parts department..

[BRIAN MP5T]

I work for the dealership and I am not sure how to disable the gov. dang I feel stupid.

They removed the ECU and connected to a computer in the Parts department..

[jaw307]

I wish we had some cool computer in the parts department

[jaw307]

I wish we had some cool computer in the parts department

[t3ase]

Wasn't the WDS machine?

[t3ase]

Wasn't the WDS machine?

[Aric]

interesting. when i worked at the mazda dealer I didnt have any super cool mazda computer. And the master tech told me the only thing he could really adjust was the timing? Although that master tech never messed around with the software enough to use any functions past reading codes and flashing the ECU.

[Aric]

interesting. when i worked at the mazda dealer I didnt have any super cool mazda computer. And the master tech told me the only thing he could really adjust was the timing? Although that master tech never messed around with the software enough to use any functions past reading codes and flashing the ECU.

[BRIAN MP5T]

It was a Desktop with a wire that had a serial port on one end and the ECU port on the other...

[BRIAN MP5T]

It was a Desktop with a wire that had a serial port on one end and the ECU port on the other...

[SandmicaMP3]

sweet wish i could go that fast lol

[SandmicaMP3]

sweet wish i could go that fast lol

[jaw307]

It was a Desktop with a wire that had a serial port on one end and the ECU port on the other...
must be a canadian thing;)

[jaw307]

It was a Desktop with a wire that had a serial port on one end and the ECU port on the other...
must be a canadian thing;)

[CasopoliS]

I guess I will jump in here. The Apexi RSM is a fun little tool, I enjoy it.

I have a G-sensor (optional) hooked up to it. It can accuratly determine acceleration times, braking times, 1/4 mile, 0-60, horsepower, torque, etc etc. On top of that, it can display up to 4 units in many different formats. Large text, small dials/gauges, or on a graph. You could have it display both RPM and speed, and even have it plot the two over top of each other. You can also plot your lateral G's. The g-force plot around turns is fun, you can see it in the picture below... it is the graph with the dots.

Anyway, this saves your max speed. It can also start to blink if you go over your max rpm or max speed (which you can set).

http://www.fox-racing.com.ua/images/rsm.jpg

[CasopoliS]

I guess I will jump in here. The Apexi RSM is a fun little tool, I enjoy it.

I have a G-sensor (optional) hooked up to it. It can accuratly determine acceleration times, braking times, 1/4 mile, 0-60, horsepower, torque, etc etc. On top of that, it can display up to 4 units in many different formats. Large text, small dials/gauges, or on a graph. You could have it display both RPM and speed, and even have it plot the two over top of each other. You can also plot your lateral G's. The g-force plot around turns is fun, you can see it in the picture below... it is the graph with the dots.

Anyway, this saves your max speed. It can also start to blink if you go over your max rpm or max speed (which you can set).

http://www.fox-racing.com.ua/images/rsm.jpg

[CasopoliS]

Here is a picture of it installed.... sorry for the size.
It only took 4 wires to hook up, and I can give you the schematic for the ECU if needed, though it is pretty straight-forward. You can also use the other wires to send out RPM and speed signals. So rather than splicing into the RPM and speed wires, you cut into them and connect two wires to the unit. Now the unit can remove the limiters for both of these. I have never tried it, but supposedly it is there. I don't think my car has been over 110 mph sadly. Maybe even 100.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9757/dscn12605ef.jpg

[CasopoliS]

Here is a picture of it installed.... sorry for the size.
It only took 4 wires to hook up, and I can give you the schematic for the ECU if needed, though it is pretty straight-forward. You can also use the other wires to send out RPM and speed signals. So rather than splicing into the RPM and speed wires, you cut into them and connect two wires to the unit. Now the unit can remove the limiters for both of these. I have never tried it, but supposedly it is there. I don't think my car has been over 110 mph sadly. Maybe even 100.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9757/dscn12605ef.jpg

[pdhaudio83]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.

[pdhaudio83]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.

[jaw307]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.
I agree, thats one of the main reasons I never went with a short shifter. the forks don't need any more stress on them than they have with the stock throws.

[jaw307]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.
I agree, thats one of the main reasons I never went with a short shifter. the forks don't need any more stress on them than they have with the stock throws.

[Peepsalot]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.
Where can you get a beefy fork though?

[Peepsalot]

guys, are you ovelooking the SHIFT FORKS? they ARE WEAK, even the MSP ones. If you drop the car and all out race, you'll break a fork.
Where can you get a beefy fork though?

[daedalus]

Doesnt nick sell them with his 2800.00 kit?

[daedalus]

Doesnt nick sell them with his 2800.00 kit?

[MyZmZm]

Not to thread jack, but how can you tell if your shift forks are on their way to going sunny side up?

i've got the b&m s/s, kartboy and bronzoil bushings, and though things are much better than stock, they're still pretty notchy. i know it's a problem period with the Pro, but 1st to 2nd is always a bitch - i can never shift smoothly. any suggestions/recommendations?

[MyZmZm]

Not to thread jack, but how can you tell if your shift forks are on their way to going sunny side up?

i've got the b&m s/s, kartboy and bronzoil bushings, and though things are much better than stock, they're still pretty notchy. i know it's a problem period with the Pro, but 1st to 2nd is always a bitch - i can never shift smoothly. any suggestions/recommendations?

[jaw307]

Not to thread jack, but how can you tell if your shift forks are on their way to going sunny side up?

i've got the b&m s/s, kartboy and bronzoil bushings, and though things are much better than stock, they're still pretty notchy. i know it's a problem period with the Pro, but 1st to 2nd is always a bitch - i can never shift smoothly. any suggestions/recommendations?
are we talkin shift forks or syncro's?

[jaw307]

Not to thread jack, but how can you tell if your shift forks are on their way to going sunny side up?

i've got the b&m s/s, kartboy and bronzoil bushings, and though things are much better than stock, they're still pretty notchy. i know it's a problem period with the Pro, but 1st to 2nd is always a bitch - i can never shift smoothly. any suggestions/recommendations?
are we talkin shift forks or syncro's?

[MyZmZm]

both, i guess. enlighten me please :)

[MyZmZm]

both, i guess. enlighten me please :)

[jaw307]

both, i guess. enlighten me please :)
the fork mainly fail, I have never heard any complaints on shifting before they fail. I am no expert so if anyone reads this and wants to jump in and correct me go ahead. basically shifting in manually transmissions are put into gear by your foot work with the clutch and little clutch like discs in the transmission these clutch looking discs, syncros, allow you to smoothly put it into gear without double clutching and speed matching. if the syncos go bad it becomes more difficult to put it into gear esp at higher rpms and may grind if you engine speed and trans speeds are really different at the time you shift.

[pdhaudio83]

your tranny will DIE if either fail.

forks are not a wear item- they work or they break. If one breaks, you will get stuck in a gear because once it breaks, you can not shift.

synchros are a tad different, they wear over time, so shifting gently will increase their life. Changing to a better tranny fluid can help increase their life. If you are a bad shifter, these will wear faster just like a clutch. After enough miles, synchros can fail, but it takes a while under most circumstances.

[XelderX]

I don't know what all the talk is about tranny problems with the Proteges are about. I know the high HP cars are shreading them, but there is no reason for near stock cars to break or damage tranny internals. I know they've been said to be weak, but it has to be 75% driver error. I've got 110,000 miles on my Pro5 and it gets beat on almost every single mile. Original tranny still in the car with only a slightly worn 1-2 synchro. Of course I still have the original windshield in the car with no cracks so I must have the best built Protege from the factory. I'm sure that as I typed this my windshield shattered and the tranny fell out from under the car.

On topic, I'm really excited to see someone pushing the speed barrier. I'm not much for top speed antics so I'm happy to live this vicariously through you.

[Killer 8]

I like the thought of going that fast just once to see the protege at it fastest but the fastest i got mines up to was 131 with a CEL and 145 on ice. i honestly think there isn't a speed limiter on these or the regular pro03 model cars but more (or less) drag limited from what other people has said which would make sense cuz be for i dropped the car it would have a hard time get up there but once i lowered it it was good, as for the transmission i had my days and at one time or another i lost my gears on two occasions were it would pop out of gear after i had badly scratched it going into second. And only after i had went through the gears while moving and parked did the gears come back and hold. keep in mind that the first time was in a 1.6L 200 protege and the last was on my car now. I also lost my transmission once while in the bitter cold of Alaska and i goes thats what happened because i wasn't even on it (no reason to on ice, no traction) and at first i lost all my gears, it was stuck in third and once i got through my base gate tried to put it in fifth with moderate force and all i could hear was metal in the trans, it had shattered and all the dealer could tell me was that they found metal shaving in it (scratched gears from before?). It was replaced under warranty so i still can't figure it out.

[Peepsalot]

145 on ice?

[Killer 8]

One winter we got rain during the day it froze as it build up on the ground (so we had about 1/2 of ice on the ground) i went crazy when saw all the ice the following night around 4pm pulled the e-break went through the gears letting my tires slip, slide and melt the ice from the friction went 1st-25mph,
2nd-58mph, 3rd-78mph, 4th-110mph, 5-145mph @ 7200rpm. It hit red line three times then i let off, Sorry i didn't take a picture but its is the truth. took an extra two minutes to get out of the groove i left(lol)

[Peepsalot]

ok i get it, so you weren't moving, lol. I thought you were driving across some gigantic frozen lake at breakneck speeds or something.

[Killer 8]

I may be crazy but shit you couldn't pay me to go over them frozen lakes i was told to many stories about 4X4's and snow mobiles going to the bottom of them. I could only imagine explaining that to my insurance.

[daedalus]

lol. me too!