Tranny Auto to Man Swap

[chico]

What involves doing a tranny Auto to Manual Swap.

Can it be successfully done w/o sacrificing anything?

[pdhaudio83]

yeah... ask lil freek

[JC-MP5]

Requires a helluva lot of work. And time. And a bit of coin I would imagine.

[bazooka joe]

from what i read it would be cheaper/easier to go by a manual protege!

[kansei]

from what i read it would be cheaper/easier to go by a manual protege!

it's the sad truth

[pro5x2]

gonna have to find a sandmica 5speed and swap all your stuff onto it then sell the auto stock'd

[KrayzieFox]

Quoted by Gimpo2 on 247
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123701877

MTX regular protege, or msp axles
Transmission try to get one out of an 03.5 for upgraded forks i think. its upgraded something
clutch upgrade here
flywheel possible upgrade if you're going to n/a, turbo you might wanna think about it.
manual ecu
manual engine wiring harness (you can hack into your existing harness and splice in the pins for the tranny sensors i.e. speedo gear) also try to get a regular manual protege, not an mp3 it is missing vtcs and cruise control, msp will not have cruise) car should still work without it
Manual starter engine harness there's a seperate harness that goes from the main fuse box thingy to the starter. it also has the connectors for the speedo sensor on it. so you'll need it if you want speedo
shifter
linkage
that piece where the ball of the shifter sits i think its a whole little ball joint assembly type thing. you'll have to look
shifter bushings just get kartboy
clutch pedal assembly
fluid line from master cyl and slave cyl
steel line from slave cyl to clutch line
clutch line just get some SS braided
manual engine mount side mounts both sides the engine is actually moved over to the drivers side a little in manuals
rear motor mount bracket on manual tranny
brake pedal its not as wide as the atx one
you might as well upgrade to AWR motor mounts and possibly get the side mount inserts.

mtx main bearing support plate bottom of the engine. it has a spot for 1 transmission bolt on it. can possibly go without it. I rebuilt my engine at the same time so i just popped it on.

you still will need misc gaskets and bolts that go inbetween all the things and shit.

thats all you need to make it work. for looks you need the center console piece, shifter boot, plastic base off stock boot, and knob.

You will need to rewire the main starter wire from the dash harness to the ecu harness in the cabin to get it to start since they use different slots in the connector.

Also your reverse lights and speedo won't work without rewiring. I still haven't done it yet.

The ATX Dash harness has 2 connectors that don't match up to the MTX engine harness so you will need to cut off the connectors on the ATX engine harness and resolder them onto the MTX engine harness inorder to get your gauge cluster working. I am unsure if my ODBII port works. So you might lose your ODBII port funtionality. I haven't checked yet since my Haltech resets it everytime. You will fail emmisions if your port doesn't work.

i think thats it... if something is missing its really small

[KrayzieFox]

And that HUGE list is the reason why it's more economical AND easier to just buy a MTX Protege instead..

[chico]

yikes. >.<

I feel intimidated.

[Jason]

i had it done, and it is a lot of work. i have the same minor issues as lil freek (no speedometer and no reverse lights), but in the end i think its worth it if you have the time and money

[Lil Freek]

Cost me $1500 and 28hrs of free labor (BrianMP5T, me and some other army dude)

I could do it in under 20hrs if I needed to do it again.

transmission
clutch
flywheel
pressure plate
clutch lines
starter
transmission gasket (you can cut the ATx one to fit the starter, but invest the $10)
alternator harness
engine harness
manual ECU
axles
extra pedals (brake and clutch)
clutch master cylider
tranny mounts
whole mess of bolts from stealership
entire shift assembly (linkage, shifter, knob)


my swap:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81179&highlight=swap

I've been meaning to make a tranny-swap "how to" for years. I have all the images at home, but I've been lazy and forgetful about it for years (esp. since i've been working on the car's other issues for 2yrs)

I have pics of almost all the parts required - I don't have net at home, so I'll see what I can write up based on my old threads, pics and memory. Brian MP5T should be able to help out a little.

It's definitely not for the faint of heart, but it's a pretty straightforward swap. I spent about 6 months researching and acquiring every part I could think of. I was at the dealership at least once a week, looking at their screenshots of all the parts for the transmission - comparing the ATx part numbers vs. MTx part numbers. It's pretty easy if you can do that, just sit there with a tech and start at the engine and follow every part from the tranny gasket to the pedal.

As for the probs... yes, only probs are the reverse lights and the speedo... neither do i really care about. I'm going to put the reverse lights on a switch and the speedo wouldn't change anything about my driving.

When do you plan on doing the swap? I'm going to Costa Rica in the winter, I'll extend my trip by a week to travel up to PR and take a couple days to help you if you wanna house me and my GF :p

[chico]

damn, sounds like a royal pain >.<

[Lil Freek]

if it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

if you don't have lots of junkyards laying around, it's really easier to find a dealership that's willing to swap with you. you might lose out on a few things, but it'll be way easier.