Oil temps

[pdhaudio83]

Anyone else have an oil temp gauge besides me?

What oil temps is everyone running?

Funny thing is I'm finding turbo timers are a waste of money going off oil temps :D

[MazdaTom]

I think I see anywhere from about 180 to 225 or so. I haven't really made any connections between the type of driving, the weather and the associated oil temps yet though.

[pdhaudio83]

Same here. I've topped out at 220. I honestly thought before I got the sensor installed I'd see temps much higher.

[MazdaTom]

And my sensor is on the sandwich plate at the oil filter. Where is yours?

[pdhaudio83]

Oil pan:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2548879170_244c7e6110.jpg

[MazdaTom]

Hmmm..... I too am surprised that you are seeing NA motor oil temps with as much boost as you are running. Maybe there is a difference due to the different mounting locations of the sensors.

[pdhaudio83]

Hmmm..... I too am surprised that you are seeing NA motor oil temps with as much boost as you are running. Maybe there is a difference due to the different mounting locations of the sensors.

I wouldn't think so at all, my return line from the turbo dumps inches away from the sensor, so if anything, my temps would be higher than usual.

However, I am now running coolant thru the turbo as well, whereas just a week ago it was only oil cooled.

I also have the Corksport 52mm Radiator to make sure it runs cool.

I don't think that boost should effect oil temps too much, as long as the turbo is cooled with water and oil

[MazdaTom]

Were you running the oil temp sensor prior to the water line hooked up to the turbo?

Are you running a coolant temp gauge?

[pdhaudio83]

Were you running the oil temp sensor prior to the water line hooked up to the turbo?

Are you running a coolant temp gauge?

No, sensor was installed at the same time coolant lines for turbo were intalled.

No coolant temp gauge, but I was watching coolant temps via the Haltech sensor for a while. My coolant temps run from 187-205 BEFORE the larger radiator.

[kansei]

damn you weren't running coolant through your turbo? well in that case, the turbo timer was an absolutely necessary mod. With a water cooled turbo, yeah not really. Natural convection currents in the coolant after the car shuts off do the job. The only thing that would really help then is if like the MS3 and plenty of vdubs I've been in, the fans were to stay on after driving the car (after engine shutoff).

[pdhaudio83]

damn you weren't running coolant through your turbo? well in that case, the turbo timer was an absolutely necessary mod. With a water cooled turbo, yeah not really. Natural convection currents in the coolant after the car shuts off do the job. The only thing that would really help then is if like the MS3 and plenty of vdubs I've been in, the fans were to stay on after driving the car (after engine shutoff).


Keep in mind I live in Michigan, water isn't 100% necessary, but I added it for reliability.

[kansei]

in the middle of winter.. maaaybe it isn't --if you have an oil cooler. But with the turbo water cooled, you don't need a turbo timer :)

[CrazyCaker]

I have my oil temp sensor mounted on a sandwich plate, and get a solid 185-190 even after "spirited" driving. I'm also running a Derale 6-pass oil cooler though, which is mounted between my AC condensor and rad (fits there perfectly).

[pdhaudio83]

I have my oil temp sensor mounted on a sandwich plate, and get a solid 185-190 even after "spirited" driving. I'm also running a Derale 6-pass oil cooler though, which is mounted between my AC condensor and rad (fits there perfectly).

It's safe to say that the oil cooler is dropping your oil temps by at least 30-50 degrees... wow

[CrazyCaker]

It's safe to say that the oil cooler is dropping your oil temps by at least 30-50 degrees... wow

I guess it is safe to say since I haven't had temps over 195 ever since I installed it. Before I installed it, I was hitting temps over 220! Hence the reason I quickly found a solution to fix that.

[mspHtown]

I have my oil temp sensor mounted on a sandwich plate, and get a solid 185-190 even after "spirited" driving. I'm also running a Derale 6-pass oil cooler though, which is mounted between my AC condensor and rad (fits there perfectly).

how does that oil cooler compare to the puny stock msp oil cooler?

[kansei]

The stock MSP oil cooler is a good unit, plus it works in the following conditions that a radiator style one wouldn't help much for:
- when the car isn't moving
- when the car is off
- when driving at low speeds (auto-x and stuff) for short bursts

of course it couldn't hurt to add another oil cooler, but I wouldn't get rid of the stocker.

[mspHtown]

The stock MSP oil cooler is a good unit, plus it works in the following conditions that a radiator style one wouldn't help much for:
- when the car isn't moving
- when the car is off
- when driving at low speeds (auto-x and stuff) for short bursts

of course it couldn't hurt to add another oil cooler, but I wouldn't get rid of the stocker.

good deal.

[CrazyCaker]

The stock MSP oil cooler is a good unit, plus it works in the following conditions that a radiator style one wouldn't help much for:
- when the car isn't moving
- when the car is off
- when driving at low speeds (auto-x and stuff) for short bursts

of course it couldn't hurt to add another oil cooler, but I wouldn't get rid of the stocker.

My rad style cooler works for all those conditions (minus when the car is off, but why would I need that anyways??). It's called fans ;). It also performs MUCH better then the MSP's cooler.

[pdhaudio83]

whats your setup, Joe?

[CrazyCaker]

whats your setup, Joe?

Derale combo cooler (6 pass oil, 4 pass tranny). Mounted between the AC condensor and the rad. 2x 12" FAL s-blade fans.

[MazdaTom]

A popular "mod" for Saturns (I used to have an autox/track Saturn SC) was to wire an on/off switch to the radiator fan. The fan would still function normally, but it could also be switched on whenever- very useful when sitting in grid at an autox when it's 90+ degrees outside. I haven't looked, but I'd imagine that something like this could be done just as easily on a Protege.

I also thought it would be neat to install one of those rotary timer switches (kinda like what you get in the bathroom in a hotel room- for that heat lamp). That way you could set it to run for 3-5 minutes or so after you shut down the car to aid in the natural convection that takes place anyway.

[pdhaudio83]

Derale combo cooler (6 pass oil, 4 pass tranny). Mounted between the AC condensor and the rad. 2x 12" FAL s-blade fans.

any pics? :D

[CrazyCaker]

any pics? :D

Unfortantely I don't have any good ones that show the set up. I will try to snap a few though when I get back home on Wednesday though.

Attached is a pic of the core I'm using, and a pic of my fan set up. The blue hoses you see are for the oil portion of the cooler, they are running a bit different now since I took this pic though (they are seperated from each other, and are routed a bit better).